{"id":7894,"date":"2022-05-03T13:02:32","date_gmt":"2022-05-03T18:02:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wisconsin.edu\/all-in-wisconsin-new\/?post_type=campus_story&#038;p=7894"},"modified":"2022-05-03T13:02:32","modified_gmt":"2022-05-03T18:02:32","slug":"leader-of-the-pack-brian-gutekunsts-path-from-uw-la-crosse-to-general-manager-in-titletown","status":"publish","type":"campus_story","link":"https:\/\/www.wisconsin.edu\/all-in-wisconsin\/story\/leader-of-the-pack-brian-gutekunsts-path-from-uw-la-crosse-to-general-manager-in-titletown\/","title":{"rendered":"Leader of the Pack: Brian Gutekunst\u2019s path from UW-La Crosse to general manager in Titletown"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"list-item-0\">\n<figure id=\"attachment_7896\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7896\" style=\"width: 1000px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-7896\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wisconsin.edu\/all-in-wisconsin-new\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/378\/2022\/04\/LAX_alum-to-Titletown_BrianGutekunst.jpg\" alt=\"Photo of UW-La Crosse alum Brian Gutekunst, who is entering his fifth season as general manager of the Green Bay Packers. His time at UWL, including a stint as a student assistant football coach, was crucial to his development as a talent evaluator. PHOTO CREDIT: Evan Siegle, packers.com\" width=\"1000\" height=\"562\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7896\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">UW-La Crosse alum Brian Gutekunst is entering his fifth season as general manager of the Green Bay Packers. His time at UWL, including a stint as a student assistant football coach, was crucial to his development as a talent evaluator. PHOTO CREDIT: Evan Siegle, packers.com<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">In 1994, a shoulder injury seemed to spell the end of Brian Gutekunst\u2019s time with the UW-La Crosse football team.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Coach Roger Harring had other ideas.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cIt was evident my career as a player was over. I was thinking about transferring to a school in North Carolina, so I could be closer to family,\u201d Gutekunst says. \u201cCoach Harring told me I wasn\u2019t leaving, that I owed him. So I came back to help him coach and recruit. It was the biggest turning point in my life.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Harring\u2019s encouragement and Gutekunst\u2019s loyalty paid major dividends \u2014 some of which continue to be seen nearly three decades later, at the highest level of the sport.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">The Eagles went 14-0 in 1995, a dominant season capped by a 36-7 rout of Rowan University in the NCAA Division III National Championship Game.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Gutekunst thrived as a coach and recruiter, cultivating skills that led to a scouting internship with the Green Bay Packers and, ultimately, his rise to general manager.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Now, after playoff heartbreaks the past few years, the former UWL student assistant coach is determined to bring the Lombardi Trophy back to Titletown.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong><span data-contrast=\"none\">A blessing in disguise<\/span><\/strong><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Like personality or eye color, a fixation with football is coded in Gutekunst\u2019s DNA.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">His father, John Gutekunst, played defensive back for Duke University and went on to coach for a half-century, including seven seasons leading the Minnesota Golden Gophers.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cGrowing up around football, and around competition in general, just made me fall in love with it,\u201d Gutekunst explains. \u201cI learned a lot by osmosis, being around my dad. I grew up in football offices and locker rooms. I knew pretty early that I wanted to do something in sports.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Working in Minnesota in the late \u201980s and early \u201990s, the older Gutekunst had taken notice of a Division III powerhouse just across the Mississippi River.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">When his son expressed interest in playing college football, UWL was a natural fit.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cMy dad knew Coach Harring vaguely and knew about the program. They had had a ton of success,\u201d Gutekunst remembers. \u201cI drove down there one day and met with Coach Harring. It was my first time in La Crosse, in the summer, and it was beautiful. From that moment, I was hooked.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"list-item-1\">\n<figure class=\"image-style-c\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uwlax.edu\/contentassets\/d2492d337f8a4841b98d59100cb0f8ab\/roger-harring.jpg\/Large\" alt=\"\" \/><figcaption>UWL coaching legend Roger Harring recognized Gutekunst&#8217;s knack for the game and gave him plenty of opportunities to learn.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Gutekunst jokes that he was hardly a standout on the gridiron, although injuries played a significant role.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">A defensive back like his father, Gutekunst twice had reconstructive surgery on his shoulder. Eventually, the injury was too much to overcome. It forced him off the field for good.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Harring, recognizing his knack for the game, gave him plenty of opportunities to learn from the sidelines.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Gutekunst spent considerable time studying film, which allowed him to share insights about high school and transfer players Harring might want to recruit. He also helped the coaching staff devise game plans for upcoming opponents.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cHe was a very outgoing and confident young man. He knew exactly where he wanted to go in the career field of football,\u201d says Mike Anderson, UWL\u2019s current associate head football coach. \u201cHis greatest talent and love of the game was the evaluation of a player\u2019s skill level. He had a unique ability to evaluate the skill set of a prospective player and the level where this individual would succeed.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cWorking under Roger Harring, (Defensive Coordinator) Roland Christensen and the other coaches on the staff really helped me develop a passion for coaching and recruiting,\u201d Gutekunst adds. \u201cI look back on all the fabulous mentors I had, and it was such a blessing.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">The Eagles followed their national championship with strong campaigns in 1996 and 1997, Gutekunst\u2019s final season with the team.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"list-item-2\">\n<figure class=\"image-style-c\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uwlax.edu\/contentassets\/d2492d337f8a4841b98d59100cb0f8ab\/brian-and-jen-gutekunst3.jpg\/Large\" alt=\"\" \/><figcaption>Brian and Jennifer (Banda) Gutekunst outside The Freighthouse Restaurant in La Crosse. The couple met at UWL during their senior year.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">That year was significant for another reason. During a group project in one of his courses, Gutekunst met the woman who would become his wife.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Jennifer (Banda) Gutekunst, \u201998, was a four-year letter winner on the women\u2019s soccer team. Despite the fact they shared a major \u2014 exercise and sport science: sport management \u2014 the pair didn\u2019t cross paths until their senior year.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cUWL gave me so many things,\u201d Gutekunst says, noting the couple now has four children. \u201cIt was a huge part of my development not only professionally, but as a person.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">In 1997, after two years coaching for the Eagles, Gutekunst was looking for a new challenge. Harring recommended him for a highly competitive scouting internship with the Packers.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">He got the job.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong><span data-contrast=\"none\">Rising the ranks<\/span><\/strong><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">During his internship with the Packers, Gutekunst was half scout, half sponge.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">He absorbed everything he could from General Manager Ron Wolf and his esteemed staff of lieutenants, which included future NFL general managers Ted Thompson, John Dorsey, John Schneider, Reggie McKenzie and Scot McCloughan.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">A year later, Gutekunst followed Schneider to the Kansas City Chiefs but was soon back in Green Bay as a full-time scout.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">He spent two years scouting the Northeast and 11 years scouting the Southeast \u2014 the latter widely regarded as a hotbed for future NFL talent.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Gutekunst\u2019s time on the road allowed him to bolster his\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">r\u00e9sum\u00e9<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0while gaining a deeper understanding of how to manage a football team.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cBeing on the road 180 days a year gave me a great education \u2014 just being at these major schools and seeing how their programs are run,\u201d he notes. \u201cIt was a wonderful time in my career, and it was really the foundation for how I approach my job.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">In 2012, a year after the Packers\u2019 victory in Super Bowl XLV, Gutekunst was promoted to director of college scouting.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Four years after that, he was named director of player personnel.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Two years after that, Gutekunst was at George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, on his way to interview for the Texans\u2019 general manager position, when he received a phone call.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">It was the Packers, asking if he would return to serve as the team\u2019s general manager.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cI don\u2019t know if it hit me right away,\u201d Gutekunst says. \u201cFrom the moment I started working with the Packers, I always felt this humbling experience of what the organization is \u2014 the history of it and my role in keeping that going. That\u2019s what is special about this place. You feel that weight and responsibility. This is the cornerstone franchise of the National Football League.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">And he was being handed the keys.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"list-item-3\">\n<figure class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uwlax.edu\/contentassets\/d2492d337f8a4841b98d59100cb0f8ab\/lambeau-field3.jpg\/Large\" alt=\"\" \/><figcaption>In January 2018, Gutekunst became the 10th general manager in Packers history, joining the likes of Vince Lombardi, Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson. PHOTO CREDIT: Evan Siegle, packers.com<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3><strong><span data-contrast=\"none\">Unfinished business<\/span><\/strong><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">While UWL provided Gutekunst a solid foundation on which to build his career, there was one thing he left unfinished.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">UWL\u2019s exercise and sport science program required a capstone internship. Because Gutekunst began his internship with the Packers before he had completed the program, the internship wasn\u2019t recognized by the university, and he never received his degree.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Gutekunst reached out to UWL in 2016, hoping to change that.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">UWL worked with the Packers to create an internship within the framework of Gutekunst\u2019s then-role as director of player personnel. The 560-hour internship required Gutekunst to submit timesheets and quarterly reports tracking his progress \u2014 something that could have seemed beneath someone of his professional experience.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cI\u2019ve had conversations with people looking to finish their degree where they say, \u2018This is a hassle. Do I really need to jump through these hoops? Can\u2019t I get credit for the work I\u2019ve already done?\u2019\u201d says Guy Herling, academic services director for the College of Science &amp; Health. \u201cBrian was a class act through the entire process.<\/span>\u00a0He was willing to do whatever it took, which was impressive because of his high-ranking position with an NFL franchise.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">By December 2016, Gutekunst had completed his internship and received his degree. That moment was heavy with meaning, he says, for several reasons.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u201cIt was very important to my mother \u2014 it meant a lot to her,\u201d Gutekunst notes. \u201cIt meant a lot to me, too. The time I spent at UWL, with Roger and Roland and everyone else, was very influential for me. To earn my degree and make that a more permanent thing, that was really special.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"list-item-4\">\n<figure class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uwlax.edu\/contentassets\/d2492d337f8a4841b98d59100cb0f8ab\/1995-assistant-coaches3.jpg\/Large\" alt=\"\" \/><figcaption>Gutekunst (back row, center) was a student assistant coach during UWL&#8217;s undefeated 1995 season, which culminated in a national championship. After leaving school in 1998, he returned to finish his degree in 2016.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3><strong><span data-contrast=\"none\">Building a winner<\/span><\/strong><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">With four seasons under his belt, Gutekunst says he feels increasingly comfortable as general manager.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">He leans on his experiences from UWL and his two-plus decades with the Packers. He is also quick to credit his staff.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cEvaluating players is difficult. There\u2019s much more art to it than science,\u201d he says. \u201cWe have a great personnel staff that puts a ton of work into it. At the same time, players are human beings. And human beings react differently when put into different environments. You never really know how a player will react until you get him out there.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Over the past year in particular, managing the team has meant managing relationships.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Last offseason, Aaron Rodgers\u2019 frustrations with the front office boiled over into a months-long media storm in which Rodgers and Gutekunst were often painted as adversaries. Many fans and reporters blamed Gutekunst for running the future Hall of Fame quarterback out of Green Bay.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Through it all, Gutekunst remained focused on molding the Packers into a Super Bowl contender. When Rodgers ultimately returned to the team, Gutekunst made a concerted effort to reconcile their differences.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">By the end of the 2021-22 season, things had improved so much that Rodgers openly praised Gutekunst for not only constructing a competitive team, but being willing to enhance communication and grow their relationship.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Gutekunst\u2019s humility, paired with his ability to concentrate on what he could control, helped him turn a potentially messy divorce with the team\u2019s star quarterback into an opportunity for growth.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cFor the most part, you continue to focus on what matters, which is building the team,\u201d he explains. \u201cI also think conflict can be a good thing if you approach it the right way. It can lead to more trust and strengthening of bonds. It was difficult, no doubt. But it was also something our team needed to go through.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">With Rodgers back for another season, and with a deep supporting cast that has helped the Packers secure a top playoff seed the past two years, Gutekunst hopes this is the year they get over the hump.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">He has proven he can build a winning team. He has shown he can regain the trust of his MVP quarterback. Now, there is one more step to take.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cIf you look back over the past three years, we\u2019ve had good football teams that have accomplished a lot, but we have to play better in those big moments,\u201d Gutekunst says. \u201cThe competitive aspect, for me, is the most enjoyable part of it. Whether it\u2019s our coaches, players, scouts or anyone else in the building, everyone is focused on one goal, which is winning a championship.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"list-item-5\">\n<figure class=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.uwlax.edu\/contentassets\/d2492d337f8a4841b98d59100cb0f8ab\/brian-gutekunst_00092.jpg\/Large\" alt=\"\" \/><figcaption>The Packers have won 39 regular-season games over the past three years \u2014 most in the NFL. 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